Karine Hains: Game 60: Canadiens vs Penguins AKA Three in a Row Last night, the Habs were in Pittsburgh and suffered a third loss in a row and did not look like they had a chance to win this one for a second.

When it comes to the FUTURE.......is there one in the Habs organization, or even hockey for Noah Juulsen?........Have heard nothing about his status in weeks.....months!!!!

When it comes to the FUTURE.......is there one in the Habs organization, or even hockey for Noah Juulsen?........Have heard nothing about his status in weeks.....months!!!!
- Newfie Hockey Nut

Only a handful of people have the answer to that question and I'm pretty sure none of them are in here


Takemedrunk... according to your ranking from the last thread, you ranking Drouin fairly low, fair to say that you believe Bergy got robbed in that trade?

Only a handful of people have the answer to that question and I'm pretty sure none of them are in here


Takemedrunk... according to you're ranking from the last thread, you ranking Drouin fairly low, fair to say that you believe Bergy got robbed in that trade?
- obie

Thought it then, think it now. JD was looking good preinjury so if he can get back to that it can become closer. His value to the Habs is greater than his league wide value in my eyes but I could easily be over estimating the way GMs view his hold out and all that stuff

When it comes to the FUTURE.......is there one in the Habs organization, or even hockey for Noah Juulsen?........Have heard nothing about his status in weeks.....months!!!!
- Newfie Hockey Nut

Newfie hockey nut, hello

Thought it then, think it now. JD was looking good preinjury so if he can get back to that it can become closer. His value to the Habs is greater than his league wide value in my eyes but I could easily be over estimating the way GMs view his hold out and all that stuff
- Takemedrunkimhome

Wasn't a big fan of the deal either, didn't think he was worth a top D prospect and I'm pretty convinced he couldn't fetch one now, not on his own anyway

Since joining the Habs

181 GP 38 G and 76 A for 114 P

Wasn't a big fan of the deal either, didn't think he was worth a top D prospect and I'm pretty convinced he couldn't fetch one now, not on his own anyway

Since joining the Habs

181 GP 38 G and 76 A for 114 P
- obie

In his defense, not his fault MB had made such a mess of things they decided to try and convert him to C, then flip him back. His development and deployment have been a mess

In his defense, not his fault MB had made such a mess of things they decided to try and convert him to C, then flip him back. His development and deployment have been a mess
- Takemedrunkimhome

I agree

Moving up to the very top of your list, is Danault worth a top D prospect? Straight up?

I agree

Moving up to the very top of your list, is Danault worth a top D prospect? Straight up?
- obie

Young C who plays 200 feet and scores at a top line or minimum top 6 clip, on a good contract and rfa at end...the more I think on it the more I keep him. Suzuki, KK and Danault as C's...move Poehling to LW...trade one of Domi, Tatar or Drouin, likely Tatar as his value is greatest and even then hard to know what comes back

Young C who plays 200 feet and scores at a top line or minimum top 6 clip, on a good contract and rfa at end...the more I think on it the more I keep him. Suzuki, KK and Danault as C's...move Poehling to LW...trade one of Domi, Tatar or Drouin, likely Tatar as his value is greatest and even then hard to know what comes back
- Takemedrunkimhome

Danault is UFA after next season, not RFA... I'm not sure if that would change your opinion or not.... but either way, the question is, is he worth a top end D prospect?

One example, for entertainment purposes of course... Danault straight up for Jake Bean, does that make sense for both teams?

get rid of Drouin and Domi asap...Domi is terrible..he is more concerned with his hair style than his game...Drouin is just terribtrade him or send him to Laval.... We need size, size, and scoring ability. Manhandled against the Bruins (outclassed by the Pens). Not a single Hab came to Gally's defense against Chara...if I were a Hab I would have taken my stick and hit Chara over the head after he crosschecked Gally to the face....you mess with the heart and soul of the team you die.....I can't stand this Bergevin disaster of a team. What a mess in Montreal.

Danault is UFA after next season, not RFA... I'm not sure if that would change your opinion or not.... but either way, the question is, is he worth a top end D prospect?

One example, for entertainment purposes of course... Danault straight up for Jake Bean, does that make sense for both teams?
- obie

I'd still try and sign Danault but that puts a wrench in there...for Jake Bean no thanks for me...he's a good prospect but for Danault and what he's done it's either can't miss or same for same type thing

get rid of Drouin and Domi asap...Domi is terrible..he is more concerned with his hair style than his game...Drouin is just terribtrade him or send him to Laval.... We need size, size, and scoring ability. Manhandled against the Bruins (outclassed by the Pens). Not a single Hab came to Gally's defense against Chara...if I were a Hab I would have taken my stick and hit Chara over the head after he crosschecked Gally to the face....you mess with the heart and soul of the team you die.....I can't stand this Bergevin disaster of a team. What a mess in Montreal.
- Hockey Pucker

I love when people say what they would have done in a scenario they'll never face - buddy...you'd attack Chara? Yeah ok. Good luck with how that plays out. There are ways to push back but that's not it

I'd still try and sign Danault but that puts a wrench in there...for Jake Bean no thanks for me...he's a good prospect but for Danault and what he's done it's either can't miss or same for same type thing
- Takemedrunkimhome

Bean is pretty damn close to can't miss

So, obviously in your opinion Danault is in fact worth a top D prospect? Right?

What about Domi? Does he have that kind of value?

Surely you could fetch one and more if you packaged up Petry & Armia?

Tatar & Mete? You think that could be a starting point to acquire one of those "can't miss" guys? Like Byram or Dobson?

Bean is pretty damn close to can't miss

So, obviously in your opinion Danault is in fact worth a top D prospect? Right?

What about Domi? Does he have that kind of value?

Surely you could fetch one and more if you packaged up Petry & Armia?

Tatar & Mete? You think that could be a starting point to acquire one of those "can't miss" guys? Like Byram or Dobson?
- obie

I love when people say what they would have done in a scenario they'll never face - buddy...you'd attack Chara? Yeah ok. Good luck with how that plays out. There are ways to push back but that's not it
- Takemedrunkimhome

Pretty sure Z could just throw me into the upper deck

Bean is pretty damn close to can't miss

So, obviously in your opinion Danault is in fact worth a top D prospect? Right?

What about Domi? Does he have that kind of value?

Surely you could fetch one and more if you packaged up Petry & Armia?

Tatar & Mete? You think that could be a starting point to acquire one of those "can't miss" guys? Like Byram or Dobson?
- obie

The way "I" would build the team from here on, I put great value in Danault and would be happy to keep him if the dollars make sense...whether or not they do we can find out as of July 1 so the earliest I'd make a decision on him is then.

I do think Domi has value but I also see it as fleeting. Suzuki should be at C but it seems Domi isn't the same at LW. I certainly see his value as less than Danault.

Petry I think would bring a nice return, nicer if done before the tdl to give the team two playoff runs. Guy has avg'd over 40 pts a season with the Habs, he's big, can play more physical than people tend to give credit and he can play up the lineup. He also has a 15 team no trade.

Mete I have no idea of his true value, it could be at two opposite poles. Tatar should bring back a nice haul if they move him but I imagine MB signs him. (I'd trade him but I'm not MB)

The way "I" would build the team from here on, I put great value in Danault and would be happy to keep him if the dollars make sense...whether or not they do we can find out as of July 1 so the earliest I'd make a decision on him is then.

I do think Domi has value but I also see it as fleeting. Suzuki should be at C but it seems Domi isn't the same at LW. I certainly see his value as less than Danault.

Petry I think would bring a nice return, nicer if done before the tdl to give the team two playoff runs. Guy has avg'd over 40 pts a season with the Habs, he's big, can play more physical than people tend to give credit and he can play up the lineup. He also has a 15 team no trade.

Mete I have no idea of his true value, it could be at two opposite poles. Tatar should bring back a nice haul if they move him but I imagine MB signs him. (I'd trade him but I'm not MB)
- Takemedrunkimhome

Suzuki is a C for sure, been saying it since they got him... that's what makes him stand out, his ability to play the position so well... positioning, vision, faceoffs... he's already superior to Domi in all of those aspects


And I agree about most of what you said, I think they definitely have what it takes to acquire what they truly need, just a matter of doing it.... I wouldn't be thrilled about trading Phil the Thrill, but if it was absolutely necessary to land one of those "elite" D prospects, I'd do it for sure... mind you I would explore all the other possibilities I laid out earlier first

Suzuki is a C for sure, been saying it since they got him... that's what makes him stand out, his ability to play the position so well... positioning, vision, faceoffs... he's already superior to Domi in all of those aspects


And I agree about most of what you said, I think they definitely have what it takes to acquire what they truly need, just a matter of doing it.... I wouldn't be thrilled about trading Phil the Thrill, but if it was absolutely necessary to land one of those "elite" D prospects, I'd do it for sure... mind you I would explore all the other possibilities I laid out earlier first
- obie

He may not be a top of the heap #1 C, but I'm old enough to remember when the Habs desperately needed a #1 C, and so I'm in no rush to get rid of him. Creating a hole (who else can play top line C at this point?) to try and fill another is lateral to me

He may not be a top of the heap #1 C, but I'm old enough to remember when the Haba desperately needed a #1 C, and so I'm in no rush to get rid of him. Creating a hole (who else can play top line C at this point) to try and fill another is lateral to me
- Takemedrunkimhome

Suzuki is well on his way to knocking Phil down a peg, not a shot at Danault, it's actually great news that somebody will, cause he's really not a 1st line C, he's a decent 2nd or a real luxurious 3rd

Bergevin's record since becoming Habs' GM eight years ago. Missed playoffs four times and lost twice in first round. How many other GMs have been fired for such poor results?

Bergevin's record since becoming Habs' GM eight years ago. Missed playoffs four times and lost twice in first round. How many other GMs have been fired for such poor results?
- 93Cup

Sure but have you seen how big he's gotten in that time? That has to count for something, no?

Suzuki is well on his way to knock Phil down a peg, not a shot at Danault, it's actually great news that somebody will, cause he's really not a 1st line C, he's a decent 2nd or a real luxurious 3rd
- obie

I'm also not so hung up on it being LD...Weber and Petry may not be here that long. Tatar to me is the big trade chip, or Domi if they do it soon.

Bergevin's record since becoming Habs' GM eight years ago. Missed playoffs four times and lost twice in first round. How many other GMs have been fired for such poor results?
- 93Cup

I don't think anybody is defending MB. I just think most of us have accepted that Molson isn't likely to get rid of him, regardless of whether we believe it should happen, so we move on

Drouin is to the Habs what Galchenyuk used to be.......

Trade Drouin, Domi, Tatar and Kovi........


* tell Tatar and Kovi you would love to have them back.......